Any beginner using only Lingvist to learn? Is Lingvist for beginner?

Is there any beginner using only Lingvist to learn?

I know it is better to learn using more than one resource.

But I am considering the situation where someone prefers to follow one at a time.

Would be Lingvist the first to try?

Does anyone have experiences to share?

I feel like reviewing words I know and having big difficulty to learn new ones.

I feel like this is an app for review and exploration of words in different contexts, or learning some new words after being at an intermediate level. But for beginners, I don't know.

What do you think, considering the same spent time, is it easier for a beginner A1 to learn using lingvist, duolingo, fluentU/Yabla (videos) or textbook like Studio 21?
How about a level A2, where the student already knows some structures of Deutsch language?

Suppose that the student wants to pick only one option and that they all motivate equally. I mean, consider the methods of each "tool", learning by sentences and improved repetition algorithm (lingvist), learning by contexts (tree) texts and figures and repetition (duolingo), learning by videos (fluentu yabla), learning by reading texts, studying grammar and making exercises (book).

Thank you

The question is too broad, what is your goal? Do you want to be able to speak first, to read, to write?

Hi @Henry-Heberle, great question you asked! Our team has attended a polyglot gathering earlier this year, where people who (on average) speak 5-6 languages shared their best practices about language learning. Many polyglots reported that learning with different tools makes their language learning deeper. So, way to go for diversifying your sources!

As for reviewing and learning new words, Lingvist app runs on the spaced repetition formula, which is also called optimal reviewing sometimes. You can read more about spaced repetition in this forum post.

I've looked into your account and noticed that—based on your initial answers—you were not offered the language placement test in the English>German course. This means that based on your answers it was more optimal for you to start learning from scratch. In the last days, your correctness level was around 50%. According to the optimal repetition regimen, you need to review the words that you are struggling with first before you can go ahead to learn new words. As soon as you see a new word it becomes a repeat, and thus increases the burden on your review stack (therefore, in order to facilitate your words acquisition you should master words that you are struggling with first).

The new words will start showing up. I can see that during the last 4 days you have been learning every day. This is a great approach. If you keep up with the same routine, you will eventually remember the words that are challenging now and will start learning new.

It does, however, seem that your learning curve might be steep, as you are a complete beginner (this would, however, happen with any platform you choose - after the initial excitement from trying something new naturally recedes, we are left with a rock of data to sculpt our knowledge). I am learning German from scratch with the app myself and can relate.

Hope this sheds some light. If it can give you the motivation to persevere that'd be fantastic!

P.S. Go through The Stacks folder to browse for resources and add your own there as well, it seems that you might have a few under your belt :)

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Hi,

As someone who just found out about Lingvist, I'm curious to hear from experienced users on how it was used to learn German Grammar.

There are quite a few tools to memorize words with Spaced Repetition algorithms, and considering SS works it's just a matter of time. This is especially true for English speakers as so many words are similar.

The hard part is the Grammar.

@Roy-John Lingvist is not aimed to teach you grammar explicitly. It has a grammar section with basic information about the language that is inferior to any grammar book. The main course assumes that you'll learn grammar implicitly from word-learning exercise and challenges. An in my opinion that is a very naive assumption. Moreover, the original idea was to teach you how to read in a foreign language in less than 200 hours and not how to communicate. Anyway, as a newly registered user you have your 72 trial hour to evaluate fully-functional version and see for yourself if it's what you are looking for.

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@dev_temp thank you for your reply.

It seems that words are not sorted according to their usage frequency.

I keep getting words that I have rarely used in my life, in any Language, while at the same time I lack many basic vocabularies. Just now I got "Editorial Office". Seriously? People in Germany greet each other daily with "Have a great day at the Editorial Office!"?

It would be highly recommended to sort according to frequency or at least subcategorize it, and first go 1-500, then 500-1000, and not jump to 2897 or 8763 or whatever.

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As a side note specifically for German, it seems that this is especially true for German as many of its words are a construct, a combination, of smaller words. And so, first learning the simpler smaller words can help with remembering the longer words. So, in fact, some words are actually "two words" and are not counted as such. Would you ask someone to memorize sechsundzwanzig before learning sechs, und and zwanzig first? (Of course, some words have common use only in combination with others so you would not expect to learn them by themselves.)

@roy-john said in Any beginner using only Lingvist to learn? Is Lingvist for beginner?:

It seems that words are not sorted according to their usage frequency.

The fun part is that learning by usage frequency is on of the biggest Lingvist selling points. The main problem is the source materials that are used for estimating use frequency. Looks like they are using lots of business oriented sources, that has its implication on the course. More details in this discussion.

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