How to take the initial test again



  • I tried out the Spanish course earlier today and my placement was obviously very poor. I had skipped 24 words. Miserable, right? 😄
    I know I'll be learning Spanish next year, so when I come to Lingvist, I don't want to spend hours filling in the words I know. Is there any way to reset the test?


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    @miguel_condesso Oh, your language skills are impressed. Technically after you finishing your another courses you can register with your email one more time, just some change it, for example "armstrong@gmail.com" change to "armstrong+1@gmail.com". You will continue get emails from lingvist on your account but technically it will be new one.



  • Thanks for the work around, @dev_temp, I'll probably just do that 🙂 Right now I'm doing them all everyday, but within 2-3 weeks I should be finishing the German from English and the English from Spanish


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    @miguel_condesso Yes I agree with @dev_temp we really haven't this feature now. But, are you studying a few courses in one day or now you are planning to take only English from German?



  • @miguel_condesso well, you can continue with your old courses on one account and practice English from German on a different one. It might seem not very convenient to switch back and forth, but if you are doing it with the web app, you can log in to different accounts with different browsers or even with the same one with Firefox containers. It's much more difficult with a mobile app, but there are ways to clone it (at least on Android). To my knowledge, there is still no better option.

    P.S. keep in mind, that if you are paying customer or if you decide to upgrade to Lingvist Unlimited for both accounts, it might lead to additional expenses.



  • I would really appreciate this feature. I'm taking the German and Spanish from English courses and I thought about also doing the reverse ones to also revise my English a bit. I just started the English from Spanish, took the test and was placed on level 46/50, which makes sense. Meanwhile, I had some time ago apparently started with the English from German and I'm at level 5/51, so I'm pretty much stuck typing in words that I have no difficulty with, so I would need to retake this test.
    Starting over with a new account is not a very nice option, as that would mean losing track of all the things I've already learned in the German and Spanish courses


  • works@Lingvist

    I'm really waiting for this feature myself, @Walker-Moore! Our devs are passionate and dedicated. Things that take time are complex tasks and sometimes they themselves can't work on solving the riddles that they really want to solve because of priority battles. At the moment, while we all are waiting for the progress reset feature, we can reset your accounts manually. I'll be the first one to shout all over this thread about the feature when it's ready, uncorking the virtual champagne. 🍾 I'm already savouring the moment.



  • When I say "It would be so trivial to implement," I (from the perspective of a developer) mean this: From a technical perspective, it would be (or at least should be, with well-thought-out database tables) be trivial to reset a user's progress to zero. Every other online learning service I can think of implements such basic functionality (from Duolingo and Memrise all the way up to so-called online universities) and provided the user understands the consequences, I don't see why it has to be such a big deal. It's a common function elsewhere for a reason.

    But, hey. I know nothing. Oh well.


  • works@Lingvist

    It has been requested. No ideological differences, but practical debates how to implement this feature.
    Tears

    When our developers hear you say: "It would be so trivial to implement"

    You know nothing

    Jokes aside, for now, we can manually reset your accounts, which will offer an opportunity to retake the test. Achtung! Resetting accounts will wipe out learning history across all added language pairs.



  • This feature has been so heavily requested for so long that I can only imagine someone behind the scenes at Lingvist has an ideological problem with the concept. It would be so trivial to implement but here we are in July 2017 and it's still not possible.



  • The desire for this feature is a symptom of a deeper problem: the accuracy is really bad!
    Initially your test estimated I know 60 words. I tried again on a new email and it estimated 300. Both are far too low, especially if you're counting multiple verb forms, as such estimates often do.

    For reference, I took two years of high school Spanish, am level 19 on Duolingo, and it gives me a count of 2000 "known" words. When they had the Immersion feature, I could read large portions of articles in the Spanish-English direction. Sure, maybe I don't have strong recall of all 2000 of those words, but IMO your test has to be way off.

    Using a different email is a really bad solution. I don't want to have to guess what email I used for this 2 or 3 years down the line. No thanks.

    I specifically left Duolingo to try out this app because I felt Duo wasn't challenging enough. I'm not willing to grind boring material forever.



  • I was also placed as a beginner because my thumb slipped while on mobile. Wish I hadn't grinded through 200 more words before logging on here.



  • @goodbyemrevans-lingvist said in How to take the initial test again:

    My sense is that words that we skip in the placement test should eventually be presented to us, not as 'new' words but as 'potentially new' words. If we get them on the first try, lingvist assumes we already know them, but if not it gets added to our repeat stack.

    This is exactly what's needed IMO



  • FWIW, I would love to be able to retake the initial assessment. I made a couple spelling mistakes on the Spanish and placed at under 300 words, even though my Spanish is about the same as my French, where I scored well over 4000.



  • I seem to have gotten to the end of the stock of German vocabulary, and find myself wondering what words I missed. The placement test estimated my level based on only a few words. Now I have to decide whether I should start a new account and intentionally underplace myself in the test so as to get to all the vocabulary, or wait for new vocabulary to be added, or just give up.

    My sense is that words that we skip in the placement test should eventually be presented to us, not as 'new' words but as 'potentially new' words. If we get them on the first try, lingvist assumes we already know them, but if not it gets added to our repeat stack. This would allow learners of every level to encounter, and, if necessary, learn, the entire word list offered by lingvist, rather than just the portion lingvist estimates them not to already know.


  • works@Lingvist

    Thanks, guys. I'll pin this thread in the FAQ to give it more attention. @maksim, @lcmnovotny, @ha14380, @alexbee, @writerlaury your comments help us understand the scope of the challenge. Does anyone except for @alexbee feel your learning is obstructed?



  • The same was happened to me. I am pretty sure to know more than 133 words of Russian



  • I can't understand how the test works.

    I took a German test and was placed at only 100 words for some reason despite only making 1 mistake on the test.

    Now I'm bogged down in words like thanks or days of the week and find there's no way to redo it. Think I'll give this a wide berth!



  • The Spanish placement test in my account never seems to end? I'm past 1200 words tested. I also am learning French if it might be somehow related.

    Thanks a lot...!



  • I had the same problem with spanish. I lived in Ecuador and Mexico, I have an advanced spanish level and searched the website to enrich my vocabulary. I think it was a matter of synonyms, but I ended up with only 98 words! It would be nice to be able to retake the test, since I'm doing other languages in the website. tks for your attention


 

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